Arthur Wiki talk:Elwood City Hall

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In-universe perspective?
Which is preferred, an in-universe or out-of-universe perspective? As in, would a preferred opening sentence for Binky Barnes be "Binky Barnes is the school bully at Lakewood Elementary", treating him as if he existed in the real world; or "Binky Barnes is a fictional character in the Arthur books and animated television series"? Wikipedia favors an out-of-universe perspective, but I'm not sure if it's the same with fan wikis. Does it matter? I'd just like to clarify. 74.33.174.133 17:39, 12 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I prefer out-of-universe myself. It gives more room to add details that would be impossible to add in "in-universe" perspection. --Noahcs 00:57, June 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think the characters should be treated as they existed in the real world, It makes it more fun to read, so like little kids could understand it. LukePhiladelphia 22:02, July 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think the characters should be treated as they existed in the real world, It makes it more fun to read, so like little kids could understand it. LukePhiladelphia 22:02, July 15, 2010 (UTC)

Quotes on pages
Do you guys think that should be quotes on top of character's pages. I put one on D.W. Read's page to serve as an example. --Noahcs 00:57, June 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * I like them. They give you an idea of what the character is like. Muppetfan 12:04, June 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think they should be kept on top. It gives you the perspective of what the character's view is from another character, rather than somebody's view of themselves. -Luke Philadelphia June 15, 2010
 * I think they should be kept on top. It gives you the perspective of what the character's view is from another character, rather than somebody's view of themselves. -Luke Philadelphia June 15, 2010

Postcards From Buster
Should this wiki cover the show Postcards From Buster? The main page says the wiki is about the book and TV series Arthur, but Buster and some of the other characters in Arthur appear in Postcards From Buster. Muppetfan 12:14, June 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * Since I have never seen Postcards From Buster (it doesn't air in my area), I can't say for sure. However, it depends on whether the focus of this wiki is solely on the TV series, or whether other aspects of the Arthur universe should be included (books, video games, other merchandise). Judging from the main page, it seems all Arthur universe material is okay, so yes Postcards from Buster is acceptable. --Noahcs 17:45, June 9, 2010 (UTC)

Categories
For categories, should there be separate categories for Arthur and Postcards from Buster? For example, should there be an Arthur DVDs category and a Postcards from Buster DVDs category, or one DVDs category? Should there be an Arthur characters category and a Postcards from Buster characters category, or one characters category? Should there be an Arthur books category and a Postcards from Buster books category, or one books category? Muppetfan 00:56, June 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * I think there should be one DVDs/characters/books category that contains EVERY single DVD/character/book, and within each of those categories, there can be subcategories with "Arthur DVDs/characters/books" and "Postcard from Buster DVDs/characters/books". Here's a list to start:


 * Category:DVDs
 * Category:Arthur DVDs
 * Category:Postcard from Buster DVDs
 * Category:Characters
 * Category:Arthur characters
 * Category:Postcard from Buster characters
 * Category:Books
 * Category:Arthur books
 * Category:Postcard from Buster books

--Noahcs 11:57, June 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * I think that would be a good idea. Muppetfan 12:20, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

Character pages
Which of these formats sound better when making character pages? Using what they were addressed in the show (Ranger Ruth, Dr. Bailey) or using just the character's actual name (Ruth, Bailey). --Noahcs 14:29, June 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * I think using what the characters were adressed in the show would be better. It would make it easier to find the characters. For example, if I was looking up the the ranger in "Buster's Dino Dilemma," the first thing I'd look for would be Ranger Ruth, because that's what she was called in the show. If I couldn't find a Ranger Ruth, I'd quit looking, thinking she doesn't have a page. Do we even know that Ruth is her first name? Could it be her last name? Now if Ranger Ruth would appear again in an upcoming episode as just Ruth, then it might make sense to move her page to Ruth. Also, who is Dr. Bailey? Muppetfan 14:50, June 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * That idea sounds great. Dr. Bailey is Arthur's personal doctor. He is mentioned in The Half-Baked Sale, when Grandma Thora is talking about the emergency numbers. --Noahcs 17:59, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think their names in the shower "eg Ranger Ruth" should be redirected to the page with their real name.
 * I think their names in the shower "eg Ranger Ruth" should be redirected to the page with their real name.

Appearances
Do you think it would be a good idea to list a character's appearances on their page? Maybe not for the main characters, as theirs would be too long, but maybe the minor characters. We do this on Muppet Wiki, and I thought that maybe we could try it here. Here is an example:

What do you think? Muppetfan 20:11, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Arthur
 * Arthur's Eyes
 * Arthur the Unfunny
 * Bleep
 * Arthur's Perfect Christmas
 * Arthur, It's Only Rock and Roll
 * Postcards from Buster
 * The Low Riders
 * Buster's Sweet Song
 * That is a great idea. I have been meaning to do something like that, but have found that it can be quite difficult. You are more than welcome to start. --Noahcs 02:17, June 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * I started ones on the page for Pickles and the page for Marina. Also, do you think it would be necessary to note when the character just has a cameo in the episode or is only in a dream or flashback? Like this:
 * Arthur
 * Arthur's Eyes (cameo)
 * Arthur the Unfunny (dream)
 * Bleep (flashback)
 * Arthur's Perfect Christmas
 * Arthur, It's Only Rock and Roll
 * Postcards from Buster
 * The Low Riders
 * Buster's Sweet Song
 * Muppetfan 12:27, June 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, special things such as cameos, voice only, flashbacks, etc. need to be made aware of. --Noahcs 12:51, June 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, special things such as cameos, voice only, flashbacks, etc. need to be made aware of. --Noahcs 12:51, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Alex and Maria
I came across this and I think it may be right. The two rabbits seem to be the only unnamed characters in the classroom. The names Alex and Maria also are on the list of names in "Arthur's Number Nightmare." What do you think? --Muppetfan 18:46, July 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * I’m hesitant to give characters names based off a chart. Besides, which one would be which? Maybe if you uploaded a picture of the rabbits you are referring to. --Noahcs 22:55, July 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it may be a good idea to leave these characters unnamed if we're not sure. If we'd count Alex and Maria as their names and they get different names in a future episode, we would have a lot of changing to do. And you'd think if the writers wanted Alex and Maria to be their names, they would have introduced them instead of having them as unnamed rabbits. --Muppetfan 13:49, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

Otis
In the notes section of "Dancing Fools" it says, "This is the first appearance of a kid called Otis." Though it may be the first time Otis was named, I'm not sure it was his first appearance. In "Arthur's Eyes," there is a character that I think looks just like Otis, except without glasses. The character appears when the class is getting their eyes checked and when Francine and the rest of the class is making fun of Arthur in the classroom. This character often appeared in other episodes. Could this be Otis? --Muppetfan 18:46, July 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * The fact that this episode was the one where a character was named shouldn‘t be in a "Notes" section, but you bring up a good point: Should characters that look similar be counted as the same character? For instance, the Dry cleaners worker is the EXACT same person whose cat was saved by Buster. Also, I remember there being lots of police officers on the show. A couple off the top of my head are the one in the fudge factory in Arthur's Family Vacation and the one who was carrying Pal during Arthur's Lost Dog. It would be easier to group them in one page, but what do you guys think? --Noahcs 22:55, July 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * If the Dry cleaners worker is the exact same person as the one in "Buster Baxter, Cat Saver," then they should be counted as the same character. I think a police officer page would be a good idea for unnamed police officers, but if they get a name then they should probably get their own page. With Otis, the character in "Arthur's Eyes should probably be counted as Otis. It is very possible that he could've just gotten glasses. --Muppetfan 13:49, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

School Nurse
I've always wondered what the school nurse's name was. In "The Lousy Week" Muffy calls the nurse something after she finds out that she has lice. But I can't quite make out what she calls her. Maybe Miss Fling or Miss Flynn? Does anyone else hear something different? --Muppetfan 18:46, July 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * No, It’s Miss Flynn. Scroll down to where "Nurse Flynn" is highlighted. --Noahcs 22:55, July 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for finding that out! --Muppetfan 13:49, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

Edwin
I noticed the name Edwin is on characters sections of some episode pages. Is he a kid in D.W.'s class? What does he look like? --Muppetfan 20:31, July 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * I do remember that name being thrown around. Yes, he is in D.W.’s class. Maybe he’s the rabbit with the orange shirt? --Noahcs 22:55, July 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * I remembered hearing that name somewhere and I thought he was in D.W.'s class. I was thinking he may be the rabbit with the orange shirt but I thought I'd check to be sure. --Muppetfan 13:49, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

Definition of an episode
What do you think should qualify as an episode? Should "Arthur’s Eyes/Francine’s Bad Hair Day" be a single episode and each story be a 'half' or a 'part', or should "Arthur’s Eyes" be an episode and "Francine’s Bad Hair Day" be an episode. What about 30 minute episodes? --Noahcs 22:55, July 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * It almost seems like they are two episodes that aired together. The plots are different and many times they were written and drawn by different people. I think "Arthur's Eyes" should be one episode and "Francine's Bad Hair Day" be another. --Muppetfan 13:49, July 3, 2010 (UTC)